Wipro chairman Mr. Azim prem ji's comment on reservation: Good one.. read on....* * I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let's start the reservation with our cricket team. We should have 10 percent reservation for Muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC /ST like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an SC/ST/OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by a SC/ST/OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An SC/ST/OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century. We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our SC/ST/OBC player. Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an SC/ST/OBC player. Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal. Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an SC/ST/OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters. There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and politicians (that can really help the country.. ) Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country..) Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward... Let's show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud of being an INDIAN.. May the good breed of politicians long live.. *
Saturday, May 21, 2011
Thursday, May 5, 2011
Top 20 India Facts
- India is the world’s largest, oldest, continuous civilization.
- When many cultures were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilization).
- The four religions born in India, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism, are followed by 25% of the world’s population.
- India is the largest English speaking nation in the world.
- India is the only country other than US and Japan, to have built a super computer indigenously.
- The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC.
- Although modern images of India often show poverty and lack of development, India was the richest country on earth until the time of British invasion in the early 17th Century. Christopher Columbus was attracted by India’s wealth.
- Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. Charaka, the father of medicine consolidated Ayurveda 2500 years ago. Today Ayurveda is fast regaining its rightful place in our civilization.
- The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is known as the Pythagorean Theorem. He discovered this in the 6th century long before the European mathematicians.
- IEEE has proved what has been a century old suspicion in the world scientific community that the pioneer of wireless communication was Prof. Jagdish Bose and not Marconi.
- The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.
- India is one of the few countries in the World, which gained independence without violence.
- India has the second largest pool of Scientists and Engineers in the World.
- Chess (Shataranja or AshtaPada) was invented in India.
- Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th century. The largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Hindus used numbers as big as 10**53(10 to the power of 53) with specific names as early as 5000 BCE during the Vedic period. Even today, the largest used number is Tera 10**12(10 to the power of 12).
- Sanskrit is the mother of all the European languages.
- The World’s first university was established in Takshashila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education.
- India never invaded any country in her last 10000 years of history.
- Bhaskaracharya calculated the time taken by the earth to orbit the sun hundreds of years before the astronomer Smart. Time taken by earth to orbit the sun: (5th century) 365.258756484 days.
- India invented the Number System. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta.
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
the GREAT VIT...........
The TRUTH About VIT!!!
Please READ the Whole of IT. It might seem lenghty but will stop you from commiting a
mistake. It took me half an hour too write .. but it takes less than 10 mins to read. (i
wish someon else had written this b4 i joined this college.)
So all you people might have bought tha amazing looking brochure. N might have seen the DVD.
I heard 2 lakh people are giving this exam this time. WOW. That is more than the people who
applied for IIT-JEE in 2005. Now you might think that this college looks so awesum .. WOW ..
i must be here .. So beautiful campus .. SHIT ! Its too good .. look at the placements !!
look at the library ! the hostel !!! the tt !! .. and so on.. initially my reaction was the
same .. but all this is just something to attract lot of students .. now let me tell you a
lil about myself. M in 1st year EEE , From VIT , From New Delhi . I came to vit in the
second counselin itself. The campus is brilliant but lemme tell you the xperience's
afterwards.
* The management at the VIT is rotten to the core. And i mean it. After counselling, which
went pretty well , we had the hostel room allotement. So you might be thinking .. it went
pretty well too .. but lemme tell yu .. the hostel allotment was the worst.. even tho these
ppl have the rooms... they will make yu go around thousand times .. ask yu to waste 3 days..
the chief warden here is a madman. So after 4 days of fighting,stayin in a hotel i got a
room . But cudnt blieve it .. man it was 6 bed room the size of 3 normal size bathrooms put
together.. lolz ... man believe me it SUCKs.. actually the 3 bed room is converted into six
bed.. cuz they have increased the intake from 1200 to 1600 way more than the campus can
support ,, and the hostels too .. so the same is going to happen to YOU. hehehe .. nwz as we
continue .. the TT looks so SEXY from outside .. but the instant u go in the class in first
sem .. itz like worse then the classrooms in the govt college. i dont know but i may be
feelin this cuz i studied in a good skul in delhi fer 14 years but still this DUZNT
happen... the scond thing is that each class will contain aroun 120 students .. lolz ... so
first sem u r dead. they are corrupted takin in managemnt students more than they shud .
they take bribes n everything .. they are worse than govt officials.
* The teachers at VIT are damn bad.. n thats the truth.. most of the teachers at vit are
taken straight from college 4 years ( oders ) having no educational teaching xperience.. so
they are south indians... with south indian incomprehensible accent ( no offense but its not
understandable ) n some unknown grudge n a mighty ego against the students. SO the situation
TILL NOW. You are stuck in a 6 bed room ( if u come l8 fer counselling ) .. u are sittin in
a very bad class wid 120 students n a sucky teacher whu duznt know wat he is teaching n its
bloody hot n the room duznt have an a/c.
* The life at vit is unbearable. there are almost no xtraciricular activities. u dont know
wat is happenin wen. i heard that there are more than 50 grps n activities.. so i joind the
music club as i play guitar n stuff. But to my astonishment , the music room was friggin
small ... it was like 3mx3m . with broken drumsets n broken guitar n broken stuff.. n no
proper system fer bands to play . its the seniours who decide who is goin to play .. but
luckily ( thanks to a surprise visit by DD tv to check the "social" life of the campus ) we
got a bigger room .. bbut overall lemme tell u. ur attendance should be 75 % n no grants are
given fer extraciricular activietes. The management motto is " SHUT UP N STUDY or Leave the
college ".
* so the teachers dont know how to teach n there are no xtracircular activites n college
gettogethers. To add to this .. the study load is too much. We have got the CAM system ( the
" Continious Assesment Marks " which continuassly "assess" ur performance at the xam ) so
after a month of attending classes and not grasping anythng the CAM were here.I fortunately
passes by studyin a day b4. lol . So after celebrating .. they were there again .. after a
month to haunt me ... n then there are friggin model test in labs , so many labs to cope up
with , so many classes . the studies in vit is mark oriented. u do practicals widout ne1
xplainin nething.n then after a month the terminal xams. ultimately the situation is
everyday ur havin n xam n u get seriously f'd up < get the meaning>
* now the situation is ur copin wid xams , fitin a battle everyday hehe . So u basically
want to socialise wid the ppl around. But according to vit .. Socialisation = Boy+Boy or
Girl+Girl .. no boy- girl combination .. gulz are supposed to get in the hostels strait
after the class ..leavin half an hour margin for friendz to meet... n boyz are off limits
the gulz hostel in around 100 m radius.the management thinks that all boys are perverted or
crap like that.. they are still living in medieval age.Oh i almost fergot.. if gulz
have to leave the campus they cant go out fer more than 2 hrs n they have to submit
sum kinda card at the gate so as to know where u r goin.
* also in the nearby area .. there is NO life .. u shud see the only cinema hall here .. i
havent seen a single muv after the first one i saw over here. fullstop.
No barista , no ccd , no place to hang out wid frenz xcept food court wich u eventually get
bored off .. no malls nuthin .. vellore is a village.
* u mit have seen the placement companies. highest taker is tcs. highest package offer :4
lakhs. avg 2 lakhs. No foriegn placements ( u mit have seen many "abroad" placements
cmpanies in the brochure but after comin here u will know that is all lies .. they get 1
student place there intentionally n then say that company name. last time IBM took only 2
students or sumthin like that n they say that IBM was ther fer campus placements.lolz.
liars.the 9 pointer n the 6 pointer < that is like 90 percentile and 60 percentile > have
the same placement, so no use to study.
Now fer hosteleers ///
* boys intime 9 PM. First years. Seniours 9 30. ( what the hell)
* No camera cells allowed < ? why the hell > n if caught u get after 4 years.
* You dont give ur laptops to ne1 else or the laptop is seized ( this is the most funny n
stupid rule Razz )
* You dont watch muv's in the night on ur laptop or the laptop is seized.
* 9 PM - 3 AM is study hrz. so u shud study n not make noise.
* There may be routine cheks on your mobile phone. The pro chancellor may ask to c ur cell ,
search it , if found any obscene msgs or pix , ur parents will be called.My frend had his
gf's msg n the registrar called up his father that he has msgs from his gf. LOOOL.
*u cant enter the hostel after intime .
*u hafto give attendance every night in the hostels. ( U heard it right.) So if u absent
someday u hafto give xplanation.
*if u wanto go fer a vacation : u hafto run from hostel to main building and back fer at
least 3 times cuz of take sign from the coordinator, mess supervisor ( for mess refund) the
chief warden.
* life is very tuf for gulz . the wardens are very bad n interfering in personal matter.
some frnd of mine dont even stay out till 8 on tuesdays wen its allowd to stay out l8 that
day cuz she will ask quesions
* they mit suspend u or debar u.
* they may pass ne new new rule in the middle of the semester without proper guidelines <
for eg they passed this new rule that 75% attendnce less wont b alloed to write the xam wen
the sem waS going to end. earlier it was pay 2000 rs n go away. so i thght i will pay 2000
bux ..n i dint attend the first half.so now i m screwd up >
* " Are you trying to be the leader ", is the response u get from chief warden if u take ne
complaints to him . lol . n he is the dumbest person alive.
* u get very very very bad food.
*its damn xpensive.
* its damn overcrowded. {one badminton court for 1200 ppl.}
* everyone in the management says they dont know n go to the other person.
* u shud have influence in order to survive.
* the tv closes at 9 pm in the night. < due to the study hrs >
*water coolers on alternate floors. TV's on alternate floors. I dont know the logic behind
it.
* u cant play guitar after 9 or do ne other xtra ciricular activites.
A conversation b/w me n pandian < the chief warden > wen i was teachin a person guitar
P: " gimme ur id card"
me:" Sir plz sorry"
P: " Gimme or i call the security guard"
me:" but sir..."
P:" SHUT UP."
me :" Sorry sir"
P: " I ll slap you hard n den say sorry. I will make sure u wont get a hostel room next sem.
Yes i will make sure.. gime the permission for keeping the guitar. where is it .. u dont
have it ?? i ll make sure u wont get the room next time"
[me gives the ID card n is extremely humiliated in front of his frendz,]
So the story till now : u r in 6 bed room ( wich is orignally 3 bed ), u have sucky
teachers,sucky classes,sucky labs,sucky crowd ,sucky college life , no gulfrend or boy frend
, no xtra ciricular activites nuthin ,you r in a jail. n thats tha truth.
For more references /
go to pissed off by VIT community on orkut.< currently 800 members thats equivalent 30 % of
the college hostel students others will join >
go to vit community on orkut.
M writin this cuz i sufferd n m again preparing for entrances ,,, so that i can get away
from this hell.
nwz more queries , feel free to ask .. if u havent recieved the admit card ,, go with the
application fotostat cuz the management duznt care n loses applications easily.if they say
they havnt recvd it , they probbly have lost it.
ANOTHER ONE
A visit to VIT
In a older post I had said that VIT's position in India Today's ranking was undeserved. Well yesterday I had the chance to go to VIT. My cousin sister had counselling in VIT and my Mama had asked me to come along. What I saw at VIT is divided into 3 parts. The good, the bad and the ugly.
The good
1. The buildings at VIT look absolutely gorgeous from the outside. The library in particular was really well done. I wish we had a library like that (I'm talking just about the building here) in IIIT.
2. A building called the technology tower was also very impressive with it's hanging gardens theme.
3. Canteen Rocks!
4. Sports facilities were pretty good. A tad over-indulgent to be honest.
5. Nice lawns. the walkways have small shades built all over them to escape from the sun which I hear is pretty strong usually.
The Bad
1. During the counselling they totally mis-represented the placements. When I asked for an average for the CS department the answer was it's somewhere between 3 and 5 lpa. When I asked for a number, I was, after a lot of persuasion, given a number of 3.3 Lpa by somebody in the PAT dept.
2. I wanted to go and check out the the CS department. I was stopped by one of the many rude security guards present in the campus. When I insisted he took me to some faculty member who was apparently a prof. He asked me stuff like "why do you want to see the dept.?", "What is the point in speaking to he faculty?" etc... I then walked into the office of the Public relations officer who, scared of me creating a scene told the guard to take me to the CS department. Why would you stop people from checking out departments?
3. There are apparently 500 students in a single batch of computer science. I enquired about this branch coz this is the one my cousin is joining. 500 people! Source P.R.Officer
The ugly
1.In the batch of 500 students 266 seats were offered through counselling and the rest i.e.234 were offered under the management quota. This is shocking. So much so that I confirmed this thrice. Once with the PRO, once with the admissions office and once more with some CS faculty!! Apparently the numbers for ECE and some extent EEE are also rather identical!! For those people who had commented on my blog about VIT offering only 10% seats through donations....People go check you figures. These are shocking proportions to take through management quotas!!
2. After I manged to get into the CS dept. I spoke to some faculty members. I cannot express in words how poor they were. VIT has about 180 faculty members in the CS dept. Of these 3~4 have PhD's the rest of the people have a B.tech/MCA background. I spoke to about 15 faculty members and hardly anyone was capable of carrying out a conversation on any academic lines. I was left speechless at how unbelievable bad there are. I have absolutely no idea of how these people are going to educate students in the art of CS! Here is a part of a conversation I had with 3 faculty members. All 3 were senior lecturers. I will not use names Razz
f1: What are doing(as in where are u studying?)
me: sir I'm at IIIT-h. I'm a dual degree student. I'm doing my ms/r part right now.
f1: what is ms/r
me: This means you will get your MS for research work and not coursework. You will have to produce some research work that will form your thesis and after that you need to defend it.(some more explanation about msbr followed)
f2: So you don't do any courses in your final year?
me: yeah pretty much. The focus is on research.
f2: Tch Tch what kind of a PG course is this? You should look at the M.tech course at VIT. We teach our students advanced concepts like software engg and java programming!
f3: so You need to just present a few papers and you get your MS?
me:(utterly shaken state) Yes thats it ...just a few papers(sigh!)
some time later we came to the topic of placements.
f2: we had very good placements this year. M$ , google and yahoo came here.
me: How many people did google hire?
f2: Google didn't hire anybody.
f3: actually google's selection process was wrong. They allowed only computer science people to sit for their written tests and in that written test they asked things that were out of syllabus.
At this point I started to giggle!
f3: Why man ...what is so funny?
me: Nothing sir...I was just thinking how silly these IT companies can be! Asking things out of syllabus is really atrocious Very Happy
There is a lotta more masala where this came from but I shall not write it in respect of those Studying at VIT (which includes my cousin Razz)
But on a more serious note what I saw at VIT was the unholy nexus of money and education in it's full fury. While I'm not against institutes charging very high fees, I'm against institutes selling them. Also I have now developed great respect for those who study at VIT and manage to do well with their careers. It's a credit to them to be able to emerge from this mess and do well. I hope my cousin can do the same.
And for India today and all those who campaigned for VIT on one of my previous posts. It is very irresponsible of you to attempt to position VIT as a top class institute ahead of NIT-T,NIT-w and IIIT-h. For those who study there and know the place I'm even more shocked that they would consider lobbying for VIT. With the faculty you have and the method of admissions....all your infrastructure counts for absolutely nothing. I never ever imagined that the faculty would be so so atrociously bad. Good luck to whoever studies there.
I HOPE U DONT JEOPARDISE UR CAREER BEST OF LUCK.........
mistake. It took me half an hour too write .. but it takes less than 10 mins to read. (i
wish someon else had written this b4 i joined this college.)
So all you people might have bought tha amazing looking brochure. N might have seen the DVD.
I heard 2 lakh people are giving this exam this time. WOW. That is more than the people who
applied for IIT-JEE in 2005. Now you might think that this college looks so awesum .. WOW ..
i must be here .. So beautiful campus .. SHIT ! Its too good .. look at the placements !!
look at the library ! the hostel !!! the tt !! .. and so on.. initially my reaction was the
same .. but all this is just something to attract lot of students .. now let me tell you a
lil about myself. M in 1st year EEE , From VIT , From New Delhi . I came to vit in the
second counselin itself. The campus is brilliant but lemme tell you the xperience's
afterwards.
* The management at the VIT is rotten to the core. And i mean it. After counselling, which
went pretty well , we had the hostel room allotement. So you might be thinking .. it went
pretty well too .. but lemme tell yu .. the hostel allotment was the worst.. even tho these
ppl have the rooms... they will make yu go around thousand times .. ask yu to waste 3 days..
the chief warden here is a madman. So after 4 days of fighting,stayin in a hotel i got a
room . But cudnt blieve it .. man it was 6 bed room the size of 3 normal size bathrooms put
together.. lolz ... man believe me it SUCKs.. actually the 3 bed room is converted into six
bed.. cuz they have increased the intake from 1200 to 1600 way more than the campus can
support ,, and the hostels too .. so the same is going to happen to YOU. hehehe .. nwz as we
continue .. the TT looks so SEXY from outside .. but the instant u go in the class in first
sem .. itz like worse then the classrooms in the govt college. i dont know but i may be
feelin this cuz i studied in a good skul in delhi fer 14 years but still this DUZNT
happen... the scond thing is that each class will contain aroun 120 students .. lolz ... so
first sem u r dead. they are corrupted takin in managemnt students more than they shud .
they take bribes n everything .. they are worse than govt officials.
* The teachers at VIT are damn bad.. n thats the truth.. most of the teachers at vit are
taken straight from college 4 years ( oders ) having no educational teaching xperience.. so
they are south indians... with south indian incomprehensible accent ( no offense but its not
understandable ) n some unknown grudge n a mighty ego against the students. SO the situation
TILL NOW. You are stuck in a 6 bed room ( if u come l8 fer counselling ) .. u are sittin in
a very bad class wid 120 students n a sucky teacher whu duznt know wat he is teaching n its
bloody hot n the room duznt have an a/c.
* The life at vit is unbearable. there are almost no xtraciricular activities. u dont know
wat is happenin wen. i heard that there are more than 50 grps n activities.. so i joind the
music club as i play guitar n stuff. But to my astonishment , the music room was friggin
small ... it was like 3mx3m . with broken drumsets n broken guitar n broken stuff.. n no
proper system fer bands to play . its the seniours who decide who is goin to play .. but
luckily ( thanks to a surprise visit by DD tv to check the "social" life of the campus ) we
got a bigger room .. bbut overall lemme tell u. ur attendance should be 75 % n no grants are
given fer extraciricular activietes. The management motto is " SHUT UP N STUDY or Leave the
college ".
* so the teachers dont know how to teach n there are no xtracircular activites n college
gettogethers. To add to this .. the study load is too much. We have got the CAM system ( the
" Continious Assesment Marks " which continuassly "assess" ur performance at the xam ) so
after a month of attending classes and not grasping anythng the CAM were here.I fortunately
passes by studyin a day b4. lol . So after celebrating .. they were there again .. after a
month to haunt me ... n then there are friggin model test in labs , so many labs to cope up
with , so many classes . the studies in vit is mark oriented. u do practicals widout ne1
xplainin nething.n then after a month the terminal xams. ultimately the situation is
everyday ur havin n xam n u get seriously f'd up < get the meaning>
* now the situation is ur copin wid xams , fitin a battle everyday hehe . So u basically
want to socialise wid the ppl around. But according to vit .. Socialisation = Boy+Boy or
Girl+Girl .. no boy- girl combination .. gulz are supposed to get in the hostels strait
after the class ..leavin half an hour margin for friendz to meet... n boyz are off limits
the gulz hostel in around 100 m radius.the management thinks that all boys are perverted or
crap like that.. they are still living in medieval age.Oh i almost fergot.. if gulz
have to leave the campus they cant go out fer more than 2 hrs n they have to submit
sum kinda card at the gate so as to know where u r goin.
* also in the nearby area .. there is NO life .. u shud see the only cinema hall here .. i
havent seen a single muv after the first one i saw over here. fullstop.
No barista , no ccd , no place to hang out wid frenz xcept food court wich u eventually get
bored off .. no malls nuthin .. vellore is a village.
* u mit have seen the placement companies. highest taker is tcs. highest package offer :4
lakhs. avg 2 lakhs. No foriegn placements ( u mit have seen many "abroad" placements
cmpanies in the brochure but after comin here u will know that is all lies .. they get 1
student place there intentionally n then say that company name. last time IBM took only 2
students or sumthin like that n they say that IBM was ther fer campus placements.lolz.
liars.the 9 pointer n the 6 pointer < that is like 90 percentile and 60 percentile > have
the same placement, so no use to study.
Now fer hosteleers ///
* boys intime 9 PM. First years. Seniours 9 30. ( what the hell)
* No camera cells allowed < ? why the hell > n if caught u get after 4 years.
* You dont give ur laptops to ne1 else or the laptop is seized ( this is the most funny n
stupid rule Razz )
* You dont watch muv's in the night on ur laptop or the laptop is seized.
* 9 PM - 3 AM is study hrz. so u shud study n not make noise.
* There may be routine cheks on your mobile phone. The pro chancellor may ask to c ur cell ,
search it , if found any obscene msgs or pix , ur parents will be called.My frend had his
gf's msg n the registrar called up his father that he has msgs from his gf. LOOOL.
*u cant enter the hostel after intime .
*u hafto give attendance every night in the hostels. ( U heard it right.) So if u absent
someday u hafto give xplanation.
*if u wanto go fer a vacation : u hafto run from hostel to main building and back fer at
least 3 times cuz of take sign from the coordinator, mess supervisor ( for mess refund) the
chief warden.
* life is very tuf for gulz . the wardens are very bad n interfering in personal matter.
some frnd of mine dont even stay out till 8 on tuesdays wen its allowd to stay out l8 that
day cuz she will ask quesions
* they mit suspend u or debar u.
* they may pass ne new new rule in the middle of the semester without proper guidelines <
for eg they passed this new rule that 75% attendnce less wont b alloed to write the xam wen
the sem waS going to end. earlier it was pay 2000 rs n go away. so i thght i will pay 2000
bux ..n i dint attend the first half.so now i m screwd up >
* " Are you trying to be the leader ", is the response u get from chief warden if u take ne
complaints to him . lol . n he is the dumbest person alive.
* u get very very very bad food.
*its damn xpensive.
* its damn overcrowded. {one badminton court for 1200 ppl.}
* everyone in the management says they dont know n go to the other person.
* u shud have influence in order to survive.
* the tv closes at 9 pm in the night. < due to the study hrs >
*water coolers on alternate floors. TV's on alternate floors. I dont know the logic behind
it.
* u cant play guitar after 9 or do ne other xtra ciricular activites.
A conversation b/w me n pandian < the chief warden > wen i was teachin a person guitar
P: " gimme ur id card"
me:" Sir plz sorry"
P: " Gimme or i call the security guard"
me:" but sir..."
P:" SHUT UP."
me :" Sorry sir"
P: " I ll slap you hard n den say sorry. I will make sure u wont get a hostel room next sem.
Yes i will make sure.. gime the permission for keeping the guitar. where is it .. u dont
have it ?? i ll make sure u wont get the room next time"
[me gives the ID card n is extremely humiliated in front of his frendz,]
So the story till now : u r in 6 bed room ( wich is orignally 3 bed ), u have sucky
teachers,sucky classes,sucky labs,sucky crowd ,sucky college life , no gulfrend or boy frend
, no xtra ciricular activites nuthin ,you r in a jail. n thats tha truth.
For more references /
go to pissed off by VIT community on orkut.< currently 800 members thats equivalent 30 % of
the college hostel students others will join >
go to vit community on orkut.
M writin this cuz i sufferd n m again preparing for entrances ,,, so that i can get away
from this hell.
nwz more queries , feel free to ask .. if u havent recieved the admit card ,, go with the
application fotostat cuz the management duznt care n loses applications easily.if they say
they havnt recvd it , they probbly have lost it.
ANOTHER ONE
A visit to VIT
In a older post I had said that VIT's position in India Today's ranking was undeserved. Well yesterday I had the chance to go to VIT. My cousin sister had counselling in VIT and my Mama had asked me to come along. What I saw at VIT is divided into 3 parts. The good, the bad and the ugly.
The good
1. The buildings at VIT look absolutely gorgeous from the outside. The library in particular was really well done. I wish we had a library like that (I'm talking just about the building here) in IIIT.
2. A building called the technology tower was also very impressive with it's hanging gardens theme.
3. Canteen Rocks!
4. Sports facilities were pretty good. A tad over-indulgent to be honest.
5. Nice lawns. the walkways have small shades built all over them to escape from the sun which I hear is pretty strong usually.
The Bad
1. During the counselling they totally mis-represented the placements. When I asked for an average for the CS department the answer was it's somewhere between 3 and 5 lpa. When I asked for a number, I was, after a lot of persuasion, given a number of 3.3 Lpa by somebody in the PAT dept.
2. I wanted to go and check out the the CS department. I was stopped by one of the many rude security guards present in the campus. When I insisted he took me to some faculty member who was apparently a prof. He asked me stuff like "why do you want to see the dept.?", "What is the point in speaking to he faculty?" etc... I then walked into the office of the Public relations officer who, scared of me creating a scene told the guard to take me to the CS department. Why would you stop people from checking out departments?
3. There are apparently 500 students in a single batch of computer science. I enquired about this branch coz this is the one my cousin is joining. 500 people! Source P.R.Officer
The ugly
1.In the batch of 500 students 266 seats were offered through counselling and the rest i.e.234 were offered under the management quota. This is shocking. So much so that I confirmed this thrice. Once with the PRO, once with the admissions office and once more with some CS faculty!! Apparently the numbers for ECE and some extent EEE are also rather identical!! For those people who had commented on my blog about VIT offering only 10% seats through donations....People go check you figures. These are shocking proportions to take through management quotas!!
2. After I manged to get into the CS dept. I spoke to some faculty members. I cannot express in words how poor they were. VIT has about 180 faculty members in the CS dept. Of these 3~4 have PhD's the rest of the people have a B.tech/MCA background. I spoke to about 15 faculty members and hardly anyone was capable of carrying out a conversation on any academic lines. I was left speechless at how unbelievable bad there are. I have absolutely no idea of how these people are going to educate students in the art of CS! Here is a part of a conversation I had with 3 faculty members. All 3 were senior lecturers. I will not use names Razz
f1: What are doing(as in where are u studying?)
me: sir I'm at IIIT-h. I'm a dual degree student. I'm doing my ms/r part right now.
f1: what is ms/r
me: This means you will get your MS for research work and not coursework. You will have to produce some research work that will form your thesis and after that you need to defend it.(some more explanation about msbr followed)
f2: So you don't do any courses in your final year?
me: yeah pretty much. The focus is on research.
f2: Tch Tch what kind of a PG course is this? You should look at the M.tech course at VIT. We teach our students advanced concepts like software engg and java programming!
f3: so You need to just present a few papers and you get your MS?
me:(utterly shaken state) Yes thats it ...just a few papers(sigh!)
some time later we came to the topic of placements.
f2: we had very good placements this year. M$ , google and yahoo came here.
me: How many people did google hire?
f2: Google didn't hire anybody.
f3: actually google's selection process was wrong. They allowed only computer science people to sit for their written tests and in that written test they asked things that were out of syllabus.
At this point I started to giggle!
f3: Why man ...what is so funny?
me: Nothing sir...I was just thinking how silly these IT companies can be! Asking things out of syllabus is really atrocious Very Happy
There is a lotta more masala where this came from but I shall not write it in respect of those Studying at VIT (which includes my cousin Razz)
But on a more serious note what I saw at VIT was the unholy nexus of money and education in it's full fury. While I'm not against institutes charging very high fees, I'm against institutes selling them. Also I have now developed great respect for those who study at VIT and manage to do well with their careers. It's a credit to them to be able to emerge from this mess and do well. I hope my cousin can do the same.
And for India today and all those who campaigned for VIT on one of my previous posts. It is very irresponsible of you to attempt to position VIT as a top class institute ahead of NIT-T,NIT-w and IIIT-h. For those who study there and know the place I'm even more shocked that they would consider lobbying for VIT. With the faculty you have and the method of admissions....all your infrastructure counts for absolutely nothing. I never ever imagined that the faculty would be so so atrociously bad. Good luck to whoever studies there.
I HOPE U DONT JEOPARDISE UR CAREER BEST OF LUCK.........
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